Looking for thoughts on what ammo to use in a 12 ga. People who tell you differently are unknowledgeable or are trying to sell you something. While the 12 gauge makes a big hole, a good centerfire cartridge delivers more velocity and kinetic energy. This includes the use of lure, scents or any other substance as a bear attractant.
Firearm discussion and resources from ar15, ak47, handguns and more. Black bear encounters happen every summer in alaska, and a new study suggests. You must wear 500 square inches of hunter orange on your head, chest, and back. Because black bear populations appeared to be healthy, idfg increased black bear hunting opportunities in the dau. Im not very worried about the black bear, in my experience theyre pretty docile if you leaveem alone. Bear bag limit, weight limits, and all other take restrictions apply. Bearable cartridges for black bear winchester ammunition. The following questions and answers pertain to segment b of the 2019 new jersey black bear hunting season which runs concurrently with the sixday firearm deer season, december 914, 2019. Youll need an energy source either a 12volt marine battery or 110volt household current, plus an energizer, fence posts, a grounding rod, and 14 or 12gauge, hitensile galvanized steel wire. Looking to get the mossberg 500 security field combo, but i am wondering about the field barrel.
Browse our selection of shotgun shells for every caliber and top shotgun brands. A 12 gauge slugs is plenty for a black bear out to 100yds. Rubber shotgun slugs are effective black bear deterrent anchorage. Pheasant hunter kills charging grizzly with 12 gauge. Nov, 2017 according to mike madel of montana fish, wildlife, and parks, the hunter shot the adult female grizzly in the face with a 12 gauge shotgun. I think it would be ok out to a hundred yards but im looking for input. You probably have access to a weapon that will be adequate to hunt.
The barrel should be plain with nothing more than a. Brenneke usa black magic magnum 12 gauge ammo 3 8 oz. There are a number ar15compatible cartridges that you can hunt bears with, but. Sportsmans guide has the best ammo prices on 12 gauge shotgun shells. Through the mid and late 1990s, i took at least 20 gobblers with the shotgun usually hunting missouri, iowa. We were asked by adfw to put our skills to use and despatch this problem bear. Youll need an energy source either a 12 volt marine battery or 110volt household current, plus an energizer, fence posts, a grounding rod, and 14 or 12 gauge, hitensile galvanized steel wire. A 12 ga with slugs is more than capable of cleaning taking a black bear. I know range will be a issue so i might use a sxs with a slug in one barrell in buckshot in the other. Black bears have been killed with just about any cartridge you can think of.
Target sports usa carries the entire line of brenneke for sale online with free. Perfect for home and auto defense and offers the best close quarters deployability of any shotgun. A friend shot a big black bear while hunting with a permitso intentionality with a 300 win mag and double lunged him only to watch that bear run 100 yards up a steep hill before dying. How to bearproof your property bear deterrents houselogic. They typically live in largely forested areas, but do leave forests in search of food. Increasing black bear harvest rates was also a desirable method to address elk calf recruitment concerns related to predation. Would a 12 gauge pump action shotgun stop a black bear or a.
Has anyone taken a pa black bear with a 12 ga slug. The bears are bayed and the shooter has to get close to make the shot in ve. The purpose of a stopping rifle is too have enough power to stop a charge from up close and dangerous. Can you kill a bear with a 12 gauge shotguni am just wondering. I have pointblanked huge bears in the center of the neck and had them get back to their feet. A 12 gauge double barreled powerhouse, break open action using conventional breech plug design with common 209 primers.
May 23, 2009 12 gauge slugs are deadly on black bear at any distance that the bear is a threat, and far beyond. The red magic is a sabot style of slug and is made in 12 gauge 2. Check out dans hunt in this clip as he puts a lightfield slug into a bigheaded newfoundland black bear. In 1978, cynthia duselbacon was severely mauled by a black bear in. Bears physically checked during any hunting season must include a carcass or an intact. Buckshot does not penetrate or break bones unless you almost press the muzzle against the bear. Cartridges and bullets for black bear the best bear medicine for stand hunting over bait. Guides carry stopping riffles that are usually a bigger caliber than the hunter uses. The barrel should be plain with nothing more than a brass bead. The american black bear ursus americanus, previously known as euarctos americanus is a mediumsized bear native to north america. Bearable cartridges for black bear the perfect bear cartridge doesnt exist because the perfect bear doesnt exist. Just watch the longer shots in the shoulder because the slug may not be able to knock the bear down. Winchesters sxp defender series shotguns also got some attention in. Eastern time, and also call 18008581549 within 24 hours of harvest to arrange for a physical check of the animal and receive a tag issued by kentucky fish and wildlife.
Mlturkeyshotguns north american muzzleloader hunting. Their reasoning is the 00 buck will not kill the bear, hopefully it will hurt it enough to turn it away from charging. Im saying you could kill a small bear like that at 100 yards with a slug, just as thousands of hunters every year kill deer at that range. Special rules on wildlife management areas wmas stocked with.
Ed tells me that the best of the best in 12 gauge for penetration these days, is the brenneke 3 magnum black gold slug, live factory ammunition. I have been given permission to dispatch it by the provincial authorities. Nj black bear hunting season faqs nj division of fish and. Jan 03, 2019 a friend shot a big black bear while hunting with a permitso intentionality with a 300 win mag and double lunged him only to watch that bear run 100 yards up a steep hill before dying. National park says shooting black bears with rubber slugs from a 12 gauge shotgun is. Nj black bear hunting season faqs nj division of fish. I really like lighted reticles for bear because unlighted black reticles on black bears tend to disappear. Im in a similar situation to gungirl with a 20 gauge and a rogue bear and hubby is away. The gun should be a reliable 12 gauge pump with a 18. A small 20 gauge slug is 34 of an ounce or 328 grains. That extra full screw in choke tube made it easy to throw 100percent patterns at 30 yards. I am going to start black bear hunting this season after seeing a large on my new farm, since i have only hunted birds before i do not own any high powered rifles. Personal experience and advice on using 12 ga buckshot on.
Back when i first started hunting with the knight mk86 inline 12 gauge turkey gun, the shotgun was easily the most effective muzzleloaded turkey hunting shotgun i had ever hunted with. It is the continents smallest and most widely distributed bear species. Check out 12 gauge steel shotshells ballistics chart and 12 gauge slugs ballistics chart for ammo specifics. If the 00 buck doesnt turn the bear, the 12ga slugs will kill it. Choosing the best cartridge depends on how you hunt. Now, these are 600800lb brown bears, not a 150300lb black bears. There are some amazing 12 gauge slugs out there, and believe it or not 10 gauge slugs too. Tim reid i carried a rem 12 gauge with slugs in northern manitoba while guiding for bears, as for a charging bear it will do the job its all shot placement forehead no. How many guys does it take to kill a bear, using only crude weapons. And both of those pistol rounds have greater sectional density.
Diablo break open, blued finish, 12 gauge pistol, black grips. A 12 gauge slug is probably too big for everything in north america at 70 yards. Nelson was a coworker of cynthia duselbacon when her tragic mauling occurred and the incident inspired him to initiate a training class for those working in bear country. A 12 gauge full bore with hard cast slugs such as black hills ammo sells has more penetration power than a.
This is a less potent cartridge than the black magic and is suitable for deer and similar quarry. I know of two young girls that killed black bear from a tree stand with a. According to mike madel of montana fish, wildlife, and parks, the hunter shot the adult female grizzly in the face with a 12gauge shotgun. Impressive new 12ga slug a hollow point in a hollow point yep duration. Retired game warden larry case blogs on big guns for bad bears. My son and i were invited to go on a black bear hunt using hounds. American black bears are omnivores, with their diets varying greatly depending on season and location. Of course, if were talking black bear, its not clear you need much more than. A 12 gauge shotgun will stop a bear if one loads it with slugs, aims at a vital.
Next time we heard the bear, swmbo went on the porch, rattled pans, flashed bright spotlights, and hollared no no bad bear. Black bears are typically gotten after in one of three ways. Target sports usa carries the entire line of brenneke for sale online with. May 10, 20 the gun should be a reliable 12 gauge pump with a 18. Hunters who harvest a bear during any bear hunting season must telecheck it by 8 p. June 12th, 2007 first lets get the obvious out of the way. The bear application period, which normally opens in march, will open shortly after the. I have taken a 300 lb black bear in maine with a 12 gauge slug at 145 yds. Out of a 12 gauge, a standard 1 oz slug is doing about 1550, although you can get 1750 from a 3 magnum. Brenneke usa black magic magnum 12 gauge ammo 3 8 oz lead rifled slug sl123bmm brenneke usa black magic magnum 12 gauge ammo 3 8 oz lead rifled slug ammo for sale online at cheap discount prices with free shipping available on bulk 16 gauge ammunition only at our online store. The wisconsin black bear management plan 2019 2029 was developed by the dnr bear advisory committee and approved by the natural resources board in may, 2019. The largest expense is the energizer, a device that delivers the electrical pulse to the wire fence. Has any wco here ever see one at a check station taken with a slug. Would 18 pellets per a shell out of a 10 gauge be enough for black bear.
Also confused on rifled barrels and what ammo can be used in them. Another thing that i found interesting on the shotgun slug subject was that, i test fired a semiauto 10 gauge shotgun ithaca on an automobile, with slugs and buckshot both. Maybe i should mention the area i hunt is pretty thick with a lot of laurel and swamps. Have heard about and seen too many bears lost to shotguns to call it a great bear gun. We set up a bait nearby and killed the problem bear. No one will argue that an acceptable firearm for bear hunting must be. The houndsman is very successful and is in on 20 30 kills a year. Theres been some aggressive mountain lion activity in the past according to them. I think a 12 guage would be better but will a 20 guage 3 with slugs do the trick there is getting to be more and more bad bear encounters here in bc, both black and grizzly, and im leaning toward a winchester defender 12 with slugs for a companion while fishing and camping. To be quite honest, the vast majority of firearms are adequate for killing anything in north america. Diablo break open, blued finish, 12 gauge pistol, black. Important changes to the 2021 bear season application.
Back when i first started hunting with the knight mk86 inline 12gauge turkey gun, the shotgun was easily the most effective muzzleloaded turkey hunting shotgun i had ever hunted with. Im going to bring my rossi single shot in 12 gauge with a 20 barrel. You can carry a 12 gauge with slugs during the 2 black bear seasons, the moose season, and the white tail season, but outside of those season, you are not permitted to carry slugs, or leadtungsten shot larger than size bb, or steel shot larger than size f. They are both thin skinned and as long as your shot placement is good they will do the trick.
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